Judge for yourself ....

Naming and shaming is the point of this post.

This is the Cambridge University music graduate who believes, in my opinion of what he is saying, that we bring homophobia upon ourselves: He uses the user name 'yesihavelegs' on www.kagoul.com . He is 31 years old and describes himself as 'bisexual'. He describes himself as: "Volatile and usually pissed off Cambridge University music graduate with bad taste but worse than that, I'm posh, lacking in tact and generally awkward. " and goes on to say: "Reading this you may feel you won't/don't like me but I can't help it if you've got no stamina, or you're an idiot. I like everyone, apart from those who make me want to cover them with vomit. "

This is the thread in question so you may judge for yourself whether this guy is making an attack on me or sticking to the subject matter:

dizzyqueen Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 00:36, Saturday August 09 2008

A quick search for 'batty boy' brings up quite a selection on Youtube, many are from the UK.

If ever some of the younger guys need to be shown why some of the older guys still campaign for equality and that we don't yet have it, go take a look.

There is some blatant homophobia going on there. The sort of thing that were it any other minority group would not be tolerated.

yesihavelegs Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 13:12, Saturday August 09 2008

If you don't want to see it, don't search for it.

"Ooh, let's see if there's any batty boy videos on youtube. That'll be fun".

No, it won't.

dizzyqueen Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 16:04, Saturday August 09 2008

yesihavelegs: If you don't want to see it, don't search for it.

Rather than treat me like an idiot with that comment consider the reason why I searched for it. Assumption and comments like that cause bad feeling between people.

A few weeks ago I was collecting my daughter from secondary school, she's 15. In the school car park a group of year 9 lads (about 14 years old) started hurling homophobic abuse. I'd heard the term 'batty boy' before but never really examined where it came from and how widely it was used. That's why I searched youtube.

I don't make the habit of randomly looking for homophobia.

yesihavelegs Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 16:59, Saturday August 09 2008

You didn't mention that. Can I treat you like an idiot now?

yesihavelegs Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 17:09, Saturday August 09 2008

And as we're on the subject and I'm sorry to go back to old material... ...you are clearly an openly gay man, with kids. You went on national television to spout forth about it, you owned the most ostentatious American car and you appear to live in areas where this sort of abuse is commonplace? As I said, if you don't want to view it, don't search for it but surely, the most importantant issues are on your doorstep, literally, not on your computer screen. I can see what you're saying but personally, I think you've got your priorities wrong.

yesihavelegs Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 17:12, Saturday August 09 2008

AND you're thinking about yourself as opposed to your kids.

dizzyqueen Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 19:55, Saturday August 09 2008

yesihavelegs ... what are you suggesting? It could be any number of things but it seems to me the general thrust of what you are saying is that I should keep a very low profile, pretend I am straight?

At the time this incident occurred I was driving a rather common French car. I had not been on TV in 8 years so those boys would have been 6 when it was on. I do not fly the rainbow flag above my house or have rainbow stickers on my car.

I am openly gay which, when I last checked, was not a crime. I have a boyfriend, we've been together 2 years, also not a crime.

It seems to me, when you are not openly insulting me by calling me an idiot (shame on you) you are telling me how to live my life ignoring the fact that it is the homophobic people amongst us who are in the wrong, not us for being gay. This is not the first time I have heard from another gay man that I have brought the homophobia upon myself and that attitude sickens me and you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting it.

Any utter bastard who says I do not look after my kids well and keep them safe needs sorting out mentally. No one who knows me would ever think it, the reality is just the opposite.

Perhaps yesihavelegs (but little common sense) you should consider that not everyone lives in your fortunate little world and that you could just maybe engage brain before writing stuff on here or, if you are incapable of thinking beyond your limited knowledge of the world, you could ask someone who has lived a little before showing yourself up as a complete an utter arsehole of a person.

I raised a perfectly valid point about homophobia n this country and you turned it around as a personal attack against me. If ever we needed an example of why this site doesn't work we need look no further than the example you have shown on this thread.

yesihavelegs Subject: 'Batty Boy' on Youtube Posted: 20:01, Saturday August 09 2008

You don't get my point, do you.

I'm not personally attacking you, that's the point. I'm expressing what I THINK and not not know, of your circumstances.

I can't help it if you lay all your cards on the table and expect people to say "Aw, poor chap".

If you don't want people's opinions, don't ask for them.

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So, there you have it, I shall let you be the judge of who said what and what it meant!